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Philip Stone is charts editor of The Bookseller. He was formerly a bookseller at Waterstone's.
Dressed to sell
14.02.08
When Waterstone's first announced that they were going to trial a dress code in all branches within a few regions, much like the loyalty card, student discount schemes, and Waterstones.com, I wondered what took them so long.
The "dress code" (and it is "dress code"--Waterstone's managers were banned from using the word "uniform" in regional meetings when the "Get Selling" scheme was first introduced back at the annual conference in 2006) seems to have been one of the most hotly-debated hot potatoes within the chain in recent years. But now it is going ahead: Waterstone's is rolling out a compulsory new dress code across all regions by May.
Whether people agree with it or not, Waterstone's have spent a lot of ££££ on focus-group research into this area. And the feedback from customers (because, believe it or not, these ARE the most important people in the business) is that they find it difficult to RECOGNISE members of staff on the shopfloor.
It therefore, makes complete sense to me, that the scheme is introduced. But most importantly, it makes sense to the customers who are the ones responsible for Christmas bonuses.
In the short-term I agree that it is difficult to measure the impact of a uniform/dress code on sales, just as it is difficult to work out the effects of a "light drizzle" or "humid weather" on customer spending. And I should know. As "Charts Editor," I spend the majority of my working week trying to get to the bottom of nuances in sales patterns across the big-sellers in the book market each week.
I can't sit here and tell anyone that "smart staff" will mean J L Carrell's The Shakespeare Secret or Sophie Kinsella's Remember Me sold ten extra units because ten customers were able to find ten members of staff in ten different bookshops ten times easier than if they weren't dressed in a uniform.
But, if the feedback from the book-buying public is that they would prefer it if booksellers did wear branded shirts/t-shirts/sweaters then why shouldn't Waterstone's introduce a company-wide policy? In terms of building Waterstone's as a "brand", it's invaluable.
"Range" or "staff levels" has little room within a "dress code" debate—important though those areas are. Wearing black every working day on your upper body has little, if anything to do with how many shelves per-bay the "Classics" genre should have or whether Oliver Ponsonby's stats dictate that "literary criticism" should be placed adjacent to "poetry" and "drama".
The only branches that may have an issue with the "dress code" debate are the more unique stores like "Ludgate Circus" or "Leadenhall Market" - the majority of shoppers from the well-dressed, uniformed, City visiting in a short 3-hour period of the day. A "dress code" for such branches may have the effect that staff ended up looking a little more like their customers, rather than the other way around.
But, although some decisions from Brentford have raised a degree of skepticism in the past, the "dress code" initiative IS NOT one of them.
It's what the customers want.
It's what they'll get.
Comments on this article
By Andre
A local discussion in this office concluded that he looks "Serious"14 Feb 08 16:33
By Louise
I don't think you'll ever be welcome in a branch of Waterstone's again. Staff will have a photocopied photo-fit of your face on their tillpoints alongside the local notorious book theives. At the very least, your loyalty card will be cut up. Best stick to shopping at Waterstones.com from now on.14 Feb 08 16:40
By Simon Key
If you look closely you can see Philip is actually wearing the black W shirt in the picture. Either it's an old photo of Phil, (with either washed or unwashed hair), or he needs to take the shirt back.14 Feb 08 16:42
By philip.jones@bookseller.co.uk
You should see him in his Bookseller uniform, sorry dress code.14 Feb 08 16:54
By RobC
Customers don't give a damn about what a bookseller is wearing, as long as they can find someone to serve them when they can't find a book. That one of the few bookseller perks is being taken away from them is symptomatic of bookselling's inevitable decline into glorified shelf-stacking.15 Feb 08 08:48
By Aimi
Fair enough RobC, and it would spoil those rare moments of shopping related humour when one mistakenly asks a fellow shopper for assistance.15 Feb 08 10:10
By Who?
Its never easy to argue against the bookselling flow, so kudos to you for thinking to convey these thoughts - as usual its more than head office have ever done. But then, we are just humble booksellers. However, complete agreement with RobC, this is another step in the crusade for Waterstones to make the job of bookselling as menial as possible. What it wants, is to create a situation whereby expertise is located solely within head office and the shops are manned by monkeys in uniform. And why? Because its cheaper! Waterstones are in an enviable position in that it has a steady stream of literature graduates competing for jobs each and every year. If they can ensure the job can be done by anyone then they can encourage staff not to stay on for years and therefore cut the higher levels of bookseller pay. And new, excited staff may not mind putting on a synthetic t-shirt to be surrounded by lovely new books. Moreover, whatever Waterstone’s wants, it cannot separate this ‘dress code’ from the Get Selling programme it accompanies. A more patronising scheme I haven’t heard of in years. But yes, Philip Stone is correct. There may be some good commercial reasons why Waterstone’s perceives the uniform to be a good idea. It has been migrating to an increasingly mainstream, commercial business capable of challenging W.H. Smith and the Supermarkets for sales of the latest Katie Price book. The thinking being, presumably, that it can never challenge Amazon’s scope of backlist availability. And with HMV posting its best results in years it is difficult to argue that it hasn’t seen results already. And lets be honest, most branches have been following a Saturday dress code for years. That I find it distasteful is undoubted, that it will place another barrier between the customer and the staff is my perspective. In this world I would like bookselling as a profession to be ranked as an honourable calling, as a skilled profession which paid its staff reasonably well. But then I would also like to live in a country which valued the arts, celebrated its caring social services and welcomed those who saw its fair shores as a place they would like to live in. But its not. The lesson is simple: either you like it or lump it. If I get the chance, I’ll be out of the door long before the Waterstone’s Regional Manager Secret Service is able to force me to abide by their ever increasing number of rules. Shelf planogram anyone?15 Feb 08 11:32
By Hamlet's Tangerine
If ten different customers in ten different shops, approaching ten different uniformed booksellers find it ten times easier to find 'Remember Me', how many booksellers were going to St Ives...no, no that's not what i was going to say...damn, i can't remember what i WAS going to say now.15 Feb 08 12:07
By Holly
I have known of a colleague who was asked for assistance while wearing her Waterstone's shirt on a lunch break trip to W. H. Smith. I have been asked if i work at HMV during a lunch break visit there while wearing a black jacket. And of course, wearing my Waterstone's shirt at work hasn't affected the number of people approaching with the opening "Do you work here...?" I suspect it is the large pile of books or reems of paperwork that give me away to customers, and were i to be branded with a giant "W" on my forehead this would not make a difference either. There is also no escaping that long before whispers of a "dress code" I and other colleagues were regularly asked "Do you work here...?" by customers when returning from lunch dressed in a coat and with a bag... Somehow they just know what we are! Still it'll make life easier for shoplifters now if they can spot us more easily!15 Feb 08 16:53
By Isabel
I work part-time in a Costa, upstairs in a Waterstones. Our uniform is rather distinctive, black with the name 'Costa' emblazoned on the shirt and apron. I often spend my measly lunch break among the books and am always approached by Waterstones customers asking questions. Everything from where can I find the latest King novel to where are the toilets. I was even told off once for not displaying a book correctly. Customers don't look - sales staff in any shop are invisible to the majority of them - we don't exist unless it is to serve their every need.15 Feb 08 19:23
By judi
I'll be open form the start - i dont work in the industry I am a customer (you know the people who buy form you) - I look on here because I'm interested in books and I've stumbled on this i do find some of the posts here a bit odd and if I'm honest a bit insulting. I'm infavour of a dress code or uniform or what ever as despite the carrying of paperwork, i dont possess a 6th sense that enables me to spot who works in a bookshop and I'm tired of awkwardly asking other customers if they work here just because they seem to be wearing black! Rob C - i do care what you wear because I want it to be clear that you work in the shop I am in Who? - blimey i hope i never visit your shop - Am I missing something you work for a book"retailer" in a book"shop" and in fact work as a book"seller". All this higher purpose I find a bit insulting, I am sure i am wrong but the katie price reference suggests the kind of snobbery that thankfully I dont get in my local W (I can just picture the look if god forbid I get an authors name wrong or as a football fan want to read the latest rubbish ghostwritten biography as well as the short stories of R Carver!) you are obviously very unhappy in your job so I think you are right in planning to leave for your own stress levels if nothing else Isabel - you are not invisble to me however you are in a "service" industry I accept this is a personal view with no science behind it and I'm sure there are others who dont feel like i do, and please forgive me if what helps me spend monry in your shop gets in the way of a "perk"! End of rant15 Feb 08 20:12
By Alcibiades
To some degree I feel an affinity with Judi's comments above. For many years there was a rather 'holier than thou' attitude displayed in some of the Waterstones shops. However, she has as a customer (quite naturally) no knowledge of the current work culture and strictures that Waterstones staff often have to endure. All she sees and probably quite rightly expects is a space filled with that most wonderful of items - books! Most customers, unless they get to know the staff, are totally unaware of the rigid and often unpleasant work conditions. I am not specifically talking here about pay, rather about the bullying, sexism, racism (lets be honest here, how many black Waterstones Managers or even staff are there?) ageism and often downright exploitation they suffer. Staff are quite literally coerced into working unpaid overtime, forced to work Bank Holidays at short notice, often made to forego holidays and a multitude of other petty minded practices that leave many of these young people stressed and unhappy. Working in retail has never been a picnic, but the practices now common in Waterstones are a disgrace! Customers would be horrified if they knew the oafish 'lads' culture that permeates the business from Manager level up. Caring for one's staff by a Manager is now seen as a 'weakness' and they are encouraged to bully and pressurise staff. Even maternity leave applications are greeted with a sigh or grimace by Managers, themselves under tremendous pressure to 'deliver'. As for those staff with young children who need flexible working or a sympathetic ear - forget it. The uniform issue - and that is what it is - is just one more way to for the staff to be controlled. How many customers have I heard say ' I'd love to work in a bookshop like Waterstones!' as they bought their books, only to think to myself 'If only you knew......'.16 Feb 08 10:05
By Moira
I used to work for Waterstone's and left because little by little they were dumbing down the booksellers. As far as I could see it was purely and simply that people were being employed at head office level who had no bookstore experience at all and felt threatened by the vast number of intelligent and overqualified booksellers working "beneath" them - so spared no pains to make sure they were regularly reminded what till-monkeys they were..16 Feb 08 16:28
By Sue Ernstsons
What a mediocre piece of writing only matched by the childishness of the comments responding to it. Sharpen Up! Bookselling is long dead.Whether or not you are wearing your designer uniform.The recruitment of graduates with little or no social or selling skills has got a lot to do with the decline in shop floor sales.Spot the customer before they need to spot you,used to be the warcry.Huddling around tills whingeing about management has been a problem in bookselling for years.The answer is good staff,hard working,motivating people at all levels to do the obvious.sell more books.17 Feb 08 10:13
By Simon Key
Whilst I fear that Sue Ernstsons is, in fact, Barbara Woodhouse, I think she has one good point amongst her theatrics. The importance of recruiting staff who want to sell books rather than the recruitment of graduates who clearly only want the job as a stop gap. If this philosophy changed then the question of a dress code wouldn't arise. Walkies!17 Feb 08 10:51
By June Austin
Personally I don't see what all the fuss is about - everyone in retail has to wear a uniform, so why should booksellers be any different? Customers will always approach you at stupid times asking stupid questions for the simple fact that most of them are just stupid and can't be bothered to think - that is a fact that anyone who works in retail knows. The staff should count themselves lucky in fact that they have a choice of different tops that they can wear and their own bottoms, as this is more than most retailers provide their staff with - try working for Sainsburys where the trousers are too long and totally unflattering and a size 14 is like a tent but a 12 designed for a stick thin model and won't even do up ! As for patronising their staff, I can't comment on what Waterstones training polices, not having worked for them, but I have worked for plenty of other retailers and believe you me it can't get much worse than the aforementioned supermarket, where believe me, life does not taste better for the staff at all !17 Feb 08 17:31
By Imogen
Because, Jane Austin, booksellers don't like to think of themselves as retailers. If they were retailers then that would mean, "gulp" that they were, "gulp" shop assistants! I should know, having been a bookseller at a very fine bookstore for over ten years. Come on booksellers, you have to admit that there is a fairly high snob factor in this industry. The reason you have been employed is to sell books and if you can sell more books by being visible to customers... One last thought... what is the matter with name tags? Much better than the (inevitably ugly) uniform option.18 Feb 08 14:39
By Adore
As a common thief and scoundral I resent the comment left by 'Holly'. How very dare you use me and my people as an excuse not to wear a uniform. Clearly you are just too ashamed to party on a friday night after work wearing your big W. Are you afraid you'll be singing along to Akon when out of the blue you will be approached by a beer belly hoodlum asking you about the new Poppy Adams? Philip Stone, the Pete Doherty, unkept hair criminal of The Bookseller underworld. Perhaps you should introduce of 'Dress Code' to your office18 Feb 08 16:25
By Oscar Mild
Flippancy, arrogance, pomposity... this thread really doesn't do anyone any credit.19 Feb 08 09:56
By molly
Ok - I am not over the moon about wearing a uniform for various reasons and, true, I do feel rather patronised by their 'Get Selling!' initiative, but I must disagree with Alciabides. Neither my manager nor my assistant manager have ever 'coerced [me] into working unpaid overtime', nor have I ever been bullied or subjected to sexism. If this is his/her experience of working in his/her branch, I suggest that Alciabides is the victim of poor management at branch level and clearly, something needs to be done about whoever is responsible. Look, we work in retail and we work for a big company that's part of a big corporation that's part of a bigger corporation. In a sense, what did we expect? And if it genuiniely is what customers want, who are we to say it's not necessary, or they can't have it? On the other hand, I think 'Waterstone's' need to be careful that their 'brand' doesn't become that of just another shop - a kind of books supermarket. The people who work on the shopfloor on Waterstone's are, in general, genuinely interested in books and have a wide range of personal taste when it comes to books. Aside from the ubiquitous '3 for 2', '£700 off' etc., which is another inevitability of modern commerce, booksellers do have the freedom to order pretty much whatever they fancy for their section or anyone else's, to recommend in writing or in conversation anything they see fit - I frequently tell customers if I didn't enjoy a book! I doubt anyone wotking in Boot's or Topshop has that freedom. I think Waterstone's head office need to remember that this is one of their greatest assets and no amount of training or uniforms can create or replace it. On the other hand, perhaps we booksellers need to remember that we do have that freedom, in spite of all the commercial faffing about we have to do, and to use it - let's show head office what bookselling is really about!19 Feb 08 10:11
By molly
And, by the way, this Waterstone's branch - and the two others in this city - employ graduates simply brimming with social skills and selling ability. Leaping on customers as they quietly browse through fiction and demanding to know 'can I help you?' doesn't tend to go down too well.19 Feb 08 10:18
By Who?
Molly is absolutel correct. My point was that this is a confrontation between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand you have a big business whose primary goal is to make money for its shareholders (particularly in the short term) and on the other you have booksellers who have generally decided that money is not the be all and end all of their life. You have practicality versus idealism, commercial appeal in the widest brand index sense against face to face bookselling at its most intimate. What sounds right from a head office homogonising perspective sounds wrong at branch level where the onus is on doing what is right for that particular branch not the brand as a whole. So what is the solution? There isn't one. Well there is, but its natural wastage. Some will wear a uniform, others wont. Who is to say who is right and who is wrong. At the end of the day one has to act on ones own principles and there are plenty of jobs out there for anyone who sees the introduction of a uniform as an invasion of their independence. It will be a great shame if people leave a job they may well like over such a small issue. But then small issues do not exist in and of themselves but are representative of wider trends. So what am I saying? That the relationship between head office and branch level is always going to be frought with difficulties and that no matter what you think you cannot claim to be catagorically right. All you can do is act on your own principles and hope your decision suits you well.19 Feb 08 10:26
By Pedro Lerias
So maybe, if booksellers are sho assistants, they should pay booksellers comissions on sales? Maybe they already do that...21 Feb 08 21:22
By Ben Jones
This is probably a good move by Waterstones, it is far easier to find the booksellers in Borders since they started wearing those red-shirts.22 Feb 08 03:13
By Practical
This whole subject gets me hot under my really-not-so-bad polo shirt, for several reasons. For starters, it proves that the "holier than thou" attitude does sadly remain amongst our ranks, with many deluded souls believing that they are being paid to stand around reading books and drinking coffee, or worse still, moaning about their employers or about how irritating and "stupid" customers are - both groups who pay our wages! Secondly, I am frankly astounded by the suggestions (allegations?) made by Alcibiades - those are some serious comments that if you feel so strongly about, should be taking up with another manager or maybe a union rep. I've never even heard mention of many of those issues, and I'm certainly not under any illusions that Waterstone's or all its employees are saints. If you hate your job and the company so much, either do something constructive about it, or leave - no-one is forcing you to work here! Actually, that brings me back to my initial point - this idea that booksellers hold a special place on the high street, somehow not part of the dirty sphere of retail. Wake up! While books can have enormous influence on people's lives, at the end of the day we are here to serve people's needs and whims. We have to adapt to the environment or we'll all be looking for new jobs, even those of us who - shock!horror! - like what we do. As for the idea of the uniform (let's be bold here and just state it for what it is) getting between customers and booksellers - twaddle! Unlike some lank-haired bookseller in a scary metal t-shirt intimidating little old ladies (intentionally or not), there's frankly very little chance of customers being put off talking to us in a polo shirt. (And yes, I'm a big believer in the existence of "shopface", some look we must project when we head out, even with coats and bags, that prompts customers in other stores to ask for our help.) Finally, the most practical point is being totally overlooked here - I'm sick of ruining my own clothes while unpacking deliveries, shelving or rummaging around on hands and knees to locate lost books, and welcome the end of the "what will I wear today?" dilemma in the morning. There's now a clear line between my work and private wardrobes, and best of all, unlike many retail employers, I'm not wearing flammable nylon that I've had to pay for out of my own pocket. There are lots of things we could be changing in both Waterstone's and the wider retail culture, and at the end of the day, this really shouldn't be a priority.22 Feb 08 16:21
By June Austin
Ha ha, had ot laugh at Imogen's comments - since when has my name been Jane ! I sometimes wish it was (with a slightly different spelt surname to boot) - then I could claim to be a long lost relative and instead of having to self publish, they would be all be knocking on my door !23 Feb 08 17:21
By Joe
Just to reassure any Waterstone's customers and all you publishers, the overwhelming majority of Waterstone's staff do not share the opinions above. Most of us are either completely indifferent to the prospect of wearing a black top with a couple of Ws on it and some of us are becoming more and more enthusiastic about it mainly because of the unbelievably hysterical reaction from some of our colleagues. The idea that we are superior beings who are somehow above this is baffling. And having to suffer the indignity of being asked "do you work here?" doesn't bother us either. We realise that it's another way of saying hello, but more formal. Yes, it will still happen when we're all wearing the new tops but that's ok. The sooner the superiority complex that lurks within bookshops disappears, the better. We work in SHOPS. We need to be easily identified by customers. Bookshops are intimidating enough for the majority of the population without the added hassle for customers of having to play 'search for someone who can help me". By having a dress code Waterstone's is signalling that they are just the same as other shops and that everyone is welcome. They are saying that their shops are not an exclusive environment on the high street. The dress code removes a barrier- the barrier of unidentifiable booksellers. The next task is to get us all to "wear" an approachable body language, even if we are carrying piles of books and lots of pieces of paper. I wonder if doctors, nurses, paramedics, firefighters, judges and relief workers in famine/drought stricken areas etc. feel demeaned by wearing a uniform ? By the way, lots of us don't mind the shelf stacking either. We applied to work in a shop after all.24 Feb 08 11:35
By Emigre
If I were rushing into a burning building i'd wear a helmet and respirator, flame-retardant pants. If I were a surgeon i'd wear a facemask and those spiffing green pyjamas. If I needed to fight others for social and sexual superiority i'd grow a bleeding great pair of antlers. But do I need to wear a uniform to be a good bookseller, one who is easily identfiable, approachable and knowledgable about their chosen sections? No I do not. Several customers i've spoken to on the subject have actually found the uniform, sorry dress code, to be MORE elitist, stating that they prefer to see staff as "one of them", rather than as one of the identical heads of a corporate Hydra. A segregation into "us" and "them" isn't what anyone wants. We become the "Book Police", which will only serve to exacerbate the superiority complex! (Oh, and if you cannot identify a bookseller, we're the ones feverishly chain-smoking just outside the front doors!)27 Feb 08 10:09
By Arthur King
As an ex-Ottakar's branch we were treated pretty terribly during the takeover. The decisions that came from above demonstrated that retaining experienced and knowledgable staff was not a priority. I feel like I'm being pushed out. My hope is that this feeilng is only at branch level, but after seeing some of the other comments left here, perhaps the poor treatment of staff is on a wider scale. I would have been indifferent to a uniform under better circumstances but sadly I feel ashamed to be promoting the brand through my work clothes. And it's true, if the staffing levels are kept so low, it doesn't matter if we're immediately recognisable to customers if we're not available to help them.27 Feb 08 16:25
By Emigre
On the superiority issue, which has nothing to do with the uniform issue, but has been raised and so must be addressed: Aren't we supposed to be superior? If I were a customer going into a bookshop i'd expect, nay demand, that the booksellers be superior to me in the field of "knowing about books", just as if I were getting a tattoo i'd want the artist to be superior to me at "doing tattoos" (and have impeccable hygiene, and tools greater than some felt tips and a sharpened set square). The staff of Tesco should be superior to me in "where the corn flakes are this week", because I am certainly inferior on that front. That "superiority" isn't a bad thing, it's part of good customer service. If we were all on a par then why would a customer need to find a bookseller, anyway, they could just ask themselves whether a title is any good? Which brings us back to the uniform. There are broadly three main categories of bookseller who are negative about the implementation; a) those who are passionately against it, b) those who wouldn't be against it if they felt they belonged to a company they were proud to be an ambassador for, and c) those who look damn good without a uniform, such is their individual style, and will in fact become less visible by wearing it. These groups make up a huge portion of the bookseller community, and had customers been asked what would deter them most from shopping, a cynical automaton in a branded polo shirt, or a happy and helpful person not wearing said polo shirt, then i'm sure the results of the market research we're told was carried out would have been significantly different.28 Feb 08 12:47
By iamsam
I have worked for waterstones for many years and i cannot understand where the problem lies. It is a shop and should therefore be doing everything in its power to make its staff visible. The world has changed and sulky amateur dramatics wont help. Perhaps staff like being able to hide in a corner uninterrupted due to looking like a customer? Or are they ashamed to be seen as part of a brand? Get over yourselves.07 Mar 08 15:01
By Bobbity
Personally, I'm happy to wear a uniform/dress code. I'd be happier if the sizes were accurate, but that's not really HOs fault. However, I think the uniform has become a target for those of us fed up with other aspects of daily W life. Get Selling, or how to patronise your staff in 6 fun filled weeks, being a particular bug bear with many of us. The godawful mystery shopper is another delightful thing inflicted on us. It shows a total lack of trust in the job staff are doing, and i say this not as a bitter staffer from a poorly performing shop but one from a consistantly high scoring shop. I find it offensive to staff and frankly patronising to our genuine customers who must endure our attempts at "discussing the purchase" just in case they are the mystery shopper who will mark us down if we do not participate in the charade. I find it especially interesting that the staff survey results have now been delayed twice due to the amount of information collected. I somehow doubt that this is to allow HO to sift through the positive feedback, but rather to work out which of the list of issues should be dealt with/swept under the carpet. So lets leave the poor old uniform alone, it saves our clothes & I think really does help customers, and focus on the real issues that are p****ing staff off.10 Mar 08 21:27
By Another Bookseller
Funnily enough, I had no idea this was such an issue until my manager pointed this out to me during my first session of "Get Selling" as a way of promoting the uniform to me. Yeah.... Anyway, I'm not overly thrilled by this uniform I have to say. Other than I was so happy of getting out of my old uniform and going into a new one wasn't particularly appetising - the fact that XS swamps me does not do anything for my morale level either while working. However, I agree with bobbity about how "Get Selling" is pretty patronising and how the lack of trust head office must have in us with this 'mystery shopper' is pretty disgraceful. It never helps when your store is understaffed and however much you want to spend time helping a customer, if you have a line of other customers at the till or if you have shelving to be done by the end of the day, and by that I mean the entirety of goods in on a Saturday, you can't stick your shiny new "tips and tricks" that you learn while 'having fun' into practise because you are swamped by other things that are now more important than traditional bookselling - like returns, de/stickering and stock take. And another point made by bobbity about the feedback that has yet to appear is very relevant. I have a feeling that HO is frantically trying to find something positive to say about a largely negative response (well at least from my branch) - unlucky on them because its hard to ignore the truth. Another thing I want to say is that the snobbery in bookselling, a topic so regularly featuring here, is probably an issue that is declining in relevance, because the mass exodus of the talents we employ is leaving us with skeleton crews of grunts with the occasional gem thrown in. I'm not saying those who know about books are snobs, but those who don't know anything about books but are still employed by Waterstone's cannot pass off that snobbery associated with bookselling at all. As an overall thing, I don't mind my job that much at Waterstone's because its a lot better than what I had to do before and certainly a lot better than lots of other jobs on the high street. If (currently) the worst the big W can do is patronise me a little for 6 weeks and make me wear a slightly-too-big Tshirt for the days that I work, then I think I've got off lightly compared to some of my friends. Doesn't stop some of my colleagues who worked for a long time for Waterstone's or good old Ottakars complaining though17 Mar 08 21:47
By A Bookseller
The huge shop in Picadilly has all their staff wearing the uniforms. They look OK: the big W is just a bit too big, to match the big D on your dunce hat, but who cares, really. Maybe a smaller W would be nicer, but it's the 'Get Selling' that's just... cringeworthy. Big posters with stupid flow diagrams and 'Know Your Stuff' (we sell BOOKS, not STUFF). Anyone else having problems finding the '"Zone of affection"? To be fair, our manager handled it quite well. We haven't quite finished yet - Kum-Ba-Yah and falling backwards 'trust exercises' are next week. Perhaps a tambourine or two. Anyway, has anyone been mystery shopped yet? They're usually quite obvious..03 Apr 08 15:59
By Mr Jack Skellington
I have no problem wearing the uniform whatsoever, i see it as saving on my clothes being damaged or worn down. People need to stop whining and see the benefits, not jump because their union rep says so.....25 Apr 08 20:46
By PB
Booksellers are shop assistants, nothing more nothing less. They should come down from their ivory towers and take a long hard look in the mirror. Should someone who works in a sports shop be called a "trainerseller" ? No. Or someone who works in a supermarket a "foodseller". No again. Why, then should bookshop assistants be any different ? Most communication a "bookseller" has with a customer goes along the lines of "£7.99 please - penny change and your recipt", or "could you check the amount and enter your pin number...". Hmmmmm. Yes, very highbrow indeed.20 May 08 13:40
By Elbe
Booksellers are called that precisely because they are not just assistants, but have a vast knowledge of the trade and market. The reason we feel we are different is because in other retail areas assistants are unlikely to have ownership of a section of the shop, whereas we buy in titles that we feel will work, talk to reps and genuinely build a rapport with customers. Hence we don't just 'assist' we actually sell. PB, If you talk to your bookseller about the titles you are buying I would be very surprised if they shrugged off your attempts to engage. The fact that staff levels are so low at Waterstone's makes our job harder, we have a passion for what we do, and getting to know our customers tastes and being able to recommend is made much more difficult when we are constantly serving as opposed to selling.16 Jun 08 20:51
By martin latham
Would you ask an HMV staffer for a music reccommendation? Even though they know loads and would be fantastic at illuminating new music. why not? that uniform.16 Jul 08 22:40
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