This is a discussion ten years in the making. Launched at the Hay Festival in 2013, Firefly Press has enjoyed a decade of success, crowned with recent Carnegie and Nibbies nods. Kumasha Books, fairly new to the children’s market, has "a steadfast commitment to seek new voices from different communities" and a bright future. A well-established small press and a fresh new brand on the block discuss the challenges and highlights they have faced while building their children’s lists